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Nerd of the Rings 3

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Two Hobbits, Sméagol and Déagol, are fishing when Déagol discovers the One Ring in the river. Sméagol is ensnared by the Ring, and kills his friend for it. He retreats into the Misty Mountains as the Ring twists his body and mind, until he becomes the creature Gollum.

(Discuss)

  • Sméagol and Deagol are cousins correct?

  • The transformation of Sméagol is still so sad and unnerving to me; what did they use for that nasty fish eating scene?

  • I love Sam’s optimism!

Centuries later, during the War of the Ring, Gandalfleads Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, and King Théoden to Isengard, where they reunite with Merry and Pippin. Gandalf retrieves the defeated Saruman's palantír. Pippin later looks into the seeing-stone, and is telepathically attacked by Sauron. Gandalf deduces that Sauron will attack Gondor's capital Minas Tirith. He rides there to warn Gondor's steward Denethor, taking Pippin with him.

(Discuss)

  • Difference:

  1. The Extended has a much longer and way cooler scene with Sairoman, and to be honest, I’d be a little pissed if I was Sauroman and Wormtongue that all I did in the movie was taken out of the final cut.

  2. The drinking game between Legolas and Gimli

  3. The moment between Aragorn and Eowyn

  4. The moment between Aragorn and Merry

  5. Some moments between Gandalf and Pippin In Gondor

  • I like how they physically do the back and forth between Sméagol and Gollum.

Gollum leads Frodo Baggins and Samwise Gamgeeto Minas Morgul, where they watch the Witch-king, leader of the nine Nazgûl, lead an army of Orcstowards Gondor. The hobbits begin climbing a stair carved in the cliff face that will take them into Mordor via a 'secret way' - unaware that Gollum plans to kill them and take the Ring. The Witch-king and his forces strike and overwhelm Osgiliath, forcing Faramir and his garrison to retreat to Minas Tirith.

(Discuss)

Differences:

  1. Part of their journey through relics of Gondor.

  2. Some of the Osgiliath scene is different

  3. Some of the moments in Rohan after the beacons are lit.

  4. Denethor’s scene with Faramir.

  • Who is this Orc Captain?

  • I always loved the scene where the beacons light.

Gollum disposes of the Hobbits' food, blaming Sam. Frodo tells Sam to go home, before Frodo and Gollum continue to the tunnel leading to Mordor, where Gollum tricks him into venturing into the lair of the giant spider Shelob. Frodo narrowly escapes and confronts Gollum, telling him that he must destroy the Ring for both their sakes. Gollum attacks Frodo, but falls down a chasm. Frodo continues on, but Shelob discovers, paralyses, and binds him. However, Sam arrives and injures Shelob, driving her away. Sam hides as Orcs appear and take Frodo with them. The Orcs start a fight over ownership of Frodo's mithril vest, allowing Sam to escape with Frodo and continue their journey.

(Discuss)

Differences:

  1. Faramir and Pippin moment.

  2. The moment between Eowyn and Eomer

  • I could NOT sleep on the stairs like they are!

  • SNEAKIN!!!!

  • I really hate Frodo here! He doesn’t deserve Sam!

  • I love Pippin's Song. I used it in my audition for Shenandoah my Freshmen year of college.

  • You know I never noticed until watchin closer that Aragorn sees the ghost king in the road to the mountain.

Aragorn learns from Elrond that Arwen is dying, having refused to leave Middle Earth after seeing a vision of her son with Aragorn. Elrond gives Aragorn Andúril, forged from the shards of Isildur's sword Narsil, so he can reclaim his birthright while gaining reinforcements from the Dead Men of Dunharrow. Joined by Legolas and Gimli, Aragorn travels to the Paths of the Dead, recruiting the Army of the Dead by pledging to release them from the curse Isildur put on them. Faramir is gravely wounded after a futile effort to retake Osgiliath; believing his son to be dead, Denethor falls into madness. Gandalf is left to defend the city against the Orc army, led by Gothmog. As Gothmog's army forces its way into the city, Denethor attempts to kill himself and Faramir on a pyre. Pippin alerts Gandalf and they save Faramir, but a burning Denethor leaps to his death from the top of Minas Tirith just before Théoden and his nephew, Éomer, arrive with the Rohirrim. During the ensuing battle, they are overwhelmed by the Oliphaunt-riding Haradrim, while the Witch-King mortally wounds Théoden. Though Théoden's niece Éowyn destroys the Witch-king with Merry's help, Théoden succumbs to his wounds. Aragorn arrives with the Army of the Dead, who overcome the Orcs and win the battle; Aragorn then frees them from the curse. Aragorn decides to lead his army upon the Black Gate as a distraction, so Frodo and Sam can get to Mount Doom.

(Discuss)

Differences:

  1. The weird little Legolas poem about the army of the dead.

  2. Some of the moments in the mountain that were kind of set up like the level of the game.

  3. Gimli's funny moments

  4. The moment where they escae the mountain and the Dead King comes to them to help.

  5. Some of the battle sequences were extra.

  6. The trio on the beach warning the pirates.

  7. The stuff with Merry and Eowyn on the road to Minas Tirith

  8. The fight between Gandalf and the Witch King.

  9. Eowyn and Merry's extra fight scenes.

  10. The trio killing the captain as he is getting to Eowyn

  11. The moment where Eomer finds Eowyn and Aragorn heals her.

  12. The moment between Faramir and Eowyn….aka THE LOOK

  • What do you think Elrond was telling Theoden?

  • I love when Elrond gives Aragorn Andurial with They will answer to the king of Gondor!

  • I love Eowyn. I really don't understand why a lot of people don't.

  • So, in Two Towers, we discussed how loyal Brego was so loyal to get to Aragorn when he was near death, but at the door in the mountain he's like DUDE YOURE ON YOUR OWN.

  • My second favorite line…."You will suffer me."

  • Denathor is a diva.

  • When Sam finds the bread and realizes what happened, I always vocalize, no matter who is around….ooooh it's about to gooooo down.

  • SAM TO THE RESCUE!!!

  • I love that The Rohirim seems to always show up at sunrise. I always get chills when this part happens because it's like they know they'll die, but they are just doing their part.

  • So passes Denathor…that's gonna suck for the poor orc he hits on his way down.

  • Eomer and Eowyn's sequences in this battle are so cool.

  • I AM NO MAN!!!! So many good epic lines.

  • That Still only counts as one!

Aragorn's army draw out Sauron's forces and empties Mordor, allowing Frodo and Sam to reach the volcano, but Gollum attacks them just as they reach Mount Doom. As he stands on the ledge over the volcanic fire, Frodo succumbs to the Ring and claims it as his own. Gollum attacks Frodo and bites his finger off to reclaim the Ring. Frodo fights back and as they struggle over the Ring, both fall off the ledge. Gollum falls into the fire with the Ring and dies. Frodo clings to the side of the ledge and Sam rescues him as the Ring disintegrates in the lava. As Frodo and Sam escape, Sauron is destroyed along with his forces and the Nine as Mordor crumbles. Gandalf flies in with eagles to rescue the Hobbits, who awaken later in Minas Tirith and are reunited with the surviving Fellowship members. Aragorn is crowned King of Gondor and takes Arwen as his queen. The Hobbits return home to the Shire, where Sam marries Rosie Cotton. A few years later, Frodo departs Middle-earth for the Undying Lands with his uncle Bilbo, Gandalf, and the Elves. He leaves Sam the Red Book of Westmarch, which details their adventures. Sam then returns to the Shire, where he embraces Rosie and their children.

(Discuss)

Differences:

  1. The moment between Aragorn and Sauron

  2. The lovely moment between Faramir and Eowyn

  3. The part where Sam and Frodo get drug into that infantry of orcs.

  4. Sam and Frodo moment where Frodo is near death…multiple times. Loke when Frodo says he can't go on and when Sam sees the star in the sky.

  5. The Mouth of Sauron scene.

  • Frodo swatting at bees before the eye looks at him.

  • Aragorn's speech is one of the best in film.

  • Never thought I'd die line….why can't we just remember that. If an Elf and a Dwarf can befriend one another…..hate can be eradicated.

  • BEST LINE….I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you…..SAM IS THE HERO OF THIS TRILOGY.

  • I also love the For Frodo line.

  • Oh cool The Eagles showed up…..what timing….

  • PLUS Pippin shouldn't know about The Eagles…..they didn't put in the scene where they save them….so how would he know?

  • The minute Frodo said….The Ring is mine…..i would have Sweet Chinned his pouty candy ass in the lava……I'd be like….i have not come this far….and taken your crap to end here….

  • Gollum technically destroyed the ring….

  • The eye's reaction is how mine reacts when my contact dries out and folds up.

  • I think at the end, Frodo hears Sam's line about Rosie, and realizes everything he sacrificed as well.

  • The moment he see's Gandalf….cause this entire time, he haas thought he is dead.

  • I love the reunion of The Fellowship man…gets me every time.

  • The Extended version explains Aragorn's reaction to Arwen better because in this version, he thinks shes dead.

  • 13 Months in the movie….how long was their journey in the books?

  • Isn't it kind of sad that they get back and realize that life went on without them…that Hobbits didn't realize they were gone or anything.

  • Old Bilbo

Question? The Witch King destroys Gandalf's staff in the extended version…yet he has it at the docks.

Final Thoughts:

I LOVE THIS TRILOGY.

I ALWAYS HATE WHEN IT ENDS

You fall in love with the characters and lean on the story.

So well done….i definitely recommend to take the time to watch the exteded versions.

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